You can download the newest issue of The Illuminata today, with articles and reviews, including an opinion piece by me on “Doc Savage: The Hero Problem.” If you’re a huge fan of Doc, try to remember that I really am a nice guy anyway. :)
The issue is: Vol. 9 Issue #3 July 2011, and you can download it as a PDF or an EPUB HERE.
Looks like a good writing day here. We’ve had four straight days of heavy, heavy rain, and though we definitely needed it we’re starting to experience some localized flooding, including some road closings. I’ve been inside a lot, playing a bit on my new video game, Quake 4, which is brought to you by the same folks who gave you Doom, my favorite video game of all time. Quake is not quite as good but is still fun. Primarily, though, I’ll be sitting high and dry in my house today, writing, writing, writing. Then napping. Wow I’ve got a good life. I hope yours is going as well.
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You can rant on Doc all you want!
ReplyDeleteYou know, I like Doc Savage as a character...in theory. I like the idea of a superman with above average physical and mental powers. But I have two of the novels and have yet to be ale to get through either of them. I thought that it was because Lester Dent, though a good storyteller, was a horrible writer. However, now that I look at him as you put him out there, I can totally see that this may be another thing that prevents me from enjoying the books.
ReplyDeleteI agree 100%. Heroes need flaws. it's what makes them relatable. Unrelatable characters are the worst kind, and really just have no place in fiction, IMHO.
You should check out Doc Wilde and the Frogs of Doom. It's a kids' book, but it's written by a guy who wanted to share the wonder of the pulps with his young son. It's a fun book, and I'm looking forward to his next one.
Interesting question: do readers begin to believe the writer herself must be questionable to come up with such things.
ReplyDeleteYes. I tried one 'Doc Savage' book and didn't like it. I honestly don't remember if it was the story or the writing that turned me off.
ReplyDeletePeople often drop Superman in this 'too perfect' camp, but Superman at least can have emotional conflicts. Doc is not only Superman on the outside, he's far too stoic on the inside, too.
Interesting piece. If you read some of the Docs published during the war, you would find a far different charcter, one that showed and reacted to fear. I don't know whether Dent was trying to bring his characters into a more mainstream line as the pulps were winding down. I'm far from an expert.
ReplyDeleteQuake 4? Good chpice. I'm more a fan fron old Infocom text adventures, but sometimes, nothing like flood the enemy's army with bullets. or lasers. Or whatever
ReplyDeleteOh, one more thing. i recently read a quaote somewhere on the net, heck it may have been you, I don't remember. The quote was "The Spider reads like Robert E, Howard writing the Shadow."
ReplyDeleteDamn! One final thing. I swear. As for your take on Doc, I'll give you a hundred yard head start before I come after you.
ReplyDeleteCharles, you sound so happy and content. Cool. We need rain badly here, it's hothothot!
ReplyDeleteRandy, What are you giving him a head start for?! Down with Gramlich!
ReplyDeleteOk, ok. Charles makes many good points about Doc Savage. But, for whatever reason, I enjoy the heck out of many of the old titles.
Alex, not a big fan eh?
ReplyDeleteTom, I definitely think Dent was not very good as a writer. He also had much better beginnings than he could ever pull off. Imaginative but not great at translating imagination to the page.
Patty, I believe a lot of readers think exactly that way.
Paul, I generally have not liked Superman but I do find him a more "human" character than Doc.
Randy, I definitely might prefer those War "docs" then. I think I actually did say that about the Spider. I like those stories quite a lot. Like Norvel Page. thanks for the headstart. :)
Deka, that's kind of exactly what I like to do when I play video games. I'm usually mentally tired by the time I start playing so I like a lot of action and shoot-em ups.
Jodi, our temps are not so bad but our humidity is way off the charts, of course.
David, I have a theory that those who read Doc when they were teenagers still like him, while those who didn't start until later are not such big fans. I only read a couple of his as a kid and I still 'like' those.
Y'know what always turned me off most about Doc --AND--the Shadow were all the additional agents they employed. Too many wise guy, quirky sidekicks!
ReplyDeleteI've only see the Doc savage movie and that was painful Mystery Science Theater 3000 worthy.
ReplyDeleteAlways good to have the days where you can work and enjoy yourself to boot.
Richard, yeah, Doc's assistants really got on my nerves too, and were mainly just comic relief as far as I could see. For the Shadow, they were just always getting into trouble and seemed more trouble for him than they were worth.
ReplyDeleteDavid J., I saw that movie a long time ago. I have zero memory of it, which tells you what impression it made.
It's always the simple things that are the most satisfying... and of course having the good sense to enjoy them. :)
ReplyDeleteThe napping sounds good, I can go there easily enough.
ReplyDeleteBernardl, I'm learning that myself.
ReplyDeleteMark, napping comes naturally to me. Lana says it's my super power.
Every opportunity for a good writing day is indeed a treasure.
ReplyDeleteI'll have to look at the Doc Savage download before I make further comment.
Just read the essay. I wouldn't think of Savage as gay, but rather misogynistic.
ReplyDeleteThink of it this way: these novels would seem to appeal to young readers, maybe late-teens, twenties, maybe early-thirties. Like Superman, he appears to be a child of the 1930s, the idealism of a young class of readers who longed to identify with a superman, or perfect man (Savage is a professor, an adventure, a surgeon and all sorts of things rolled up in one) who has the authority to order what would otherwise be superiors around (his sidekicks tend to be high-ranking military or former military officers).
If the hero had a flaw, then that would make it more difficult for a young male audience to project itself onto the character. They would probably see that as a weakness in themselves.
I've never been a fan of Superman, because, like you say of Doc Savage, he's simply a boring character. He doesn't strike us as realistic. If nothing else, we would say either he or his writers are in denial.
Then again, maybe those characters aren't written for people like you and me. At least I had the sense to stop reading Superman after only three magazine (ducks:-)
Cool I'll check it out~
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you're getting rain, although may it can taper off a bit now, send it over Texas' way for a while . . .
Hey, excellent article! Agreed. Too goody two shoes = boring and unappealing in fiction as in life.
ReplyDeleteX-Dell, I'm sure those characters, like Doc and Superman, aren't meant for folks like us. I do think that people who read them when younger get more in to them. I read plenty of stuff I don't much like. A lot of it is for research purposes. And the Doc Savage books are certainly easy reading. A couple of hours at most.
ReplyDeleteErik, thanks for reading the essay. It's fairly clear today so we may be through with rain for a while. At least maybe we're through with the torrential downpours for a while.
Summer vacation, happy times. Enjoy, Charles.
ReplyDeleteGlad you Summer life is good, Charles :)
ReplyDeleteAloha from Waikiki;
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Good luck with the writing!
ReplyDeleteElaine, absolutely.
ReplyDeleteCloudia, very good.
Greg, thankee.
Enjoy the writing while the weather is bad. When it is good you will have to do outside chores during nap time. That's no good.
ReplyDeleteI agree, heroes should have their flaws as a character. They have to be different to an extent, but not too perfect, either.
ReplyDeleteWe need some rain--it's all sunshine and heat, and set to get hotter. Hope you enjoy the writing time.
Carole, I actually make it a point not to do many outside chores. :)
ReplyDeleteGolden Eagle, I hope some rain comes your way then.
Mark, napping comes naturally to me. Lana says it's my super power.
ReplyDeleteHaha! Writing and napping--you forgot eating--the third element of contentment, which fortifies the writing and napping.
Danette, I suppose eating is such a 'big' part of me that I just take it for granted. :)
ReplyDeleteThe most recent games that I loved were Fallout 3 (a post nuclear apocalyptic type of game filled with radioactive zombies, evil human slavers, smugglers and cyber knights and the like) and of course, Knights of the Old Republic :) And I was a big Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind fan as well.
ReplyDeleteCurrently, I live with a sweet gal and her kids, so her oldest and I like to play games. He's into the ubiquitous Call of Duty games. We play an awful lot of MW2 and Black Ops.
ReplyDeletelol
A little too much...
I never thought I'd welcome dark, rainy days, but it is such a wonderful break from the heat.
ReplyDeleteMy life is the best because you're in it.
ReplyDeleteeric1313, I've got one of the Fallout games, I might have to pick your brain over some of that. I'm gonn have to try call of duty.
ReplyDeleteCandy, definitely. Most of the time in the summer our AC runs almost every minute, but with all the rain we've been able to cut back a little.
Lana, you are sweet.