tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post9199813144706372636..comments2024-02-12T17:59:33.534-06:00Comments on RAZORED ZEN: Putting an anthology togetherCharles Gramlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-79454001378848086942009-12-11T08:43:12.236-06:002009-12-11T08:43:12.236-06:00Cloudia, I think I'm mostly teaching myself so...Cloudia, I think I'm mostly teaching myself some stuff. But it's good to develop interest in one's stuff.<br /><br />JR, I definitely want a very strong story first. I'm debating whether to do the humorous ones together or spread out.<br /><br />pattinase, that's a good quality, for sure. There are probably many different ways of orgnazing the things. Ahh, Choice!<br /><br />Tom Bailey, I've never tried that, although I've written down poems and snatches of songs that I've dreamed. Many of those turn out to be mostly gibberish the next morning. But hey, if it works for someone then power to 'em.<br /><br />Don, of the folks that have read Cold in the Light, only a couple seem to have noticed that. But it was fun putting it together that way.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-42429401136973932722009-12-11T05:15:50.911-06:002009-12-11T05:15:50.911-06:00Amazing - I just took a gander at "Cold in th...Amazing - I just took a gander at "Cold in the Light" in amazon preview and see what you have indeed done with the Hemingway take. Excellent, Charles - I've always loved that idea.<br /><br />I'm sure this project will all come together and be very interesting, indeed.Issa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-26282770472858431112009-12-10T22:52:03.169-06:002009-12-10T22:52:03.169-06:00I have a very creative friend that writes books th...I have a very creative friend that writes books that set an alarm clock for 2:00 am and writes down the answers that pop into her mind that she has on a pad on the nighstand. Whatever answers pop in those are the ones she goes with. What do you think?<br /><br />Best of luck,<br />Tom BaileyTom Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694425811308686944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-71079159019557197132009-12-10T21:48:28.016-06:002009-12-10T21:48:28.016-06:00I always like chronological, so you can see where ...I always like chronological, so you can see where the trail leads.pattinase (abbott)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02916037185235335846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-44042485472313904362009-12-10T18:29:47.145-06:002009-12-10T18:29:47.145-06:00If it were me, I'd try to organize each story ...If it were me, I'd try to organize each story according to thematic structure with the strongest story first.JR's Thumbprintshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479324326541901987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-64806841236287951402009-12-10T14:25:10.721-06:002009-12-10T14:25:10.721-06:00This is great:
You are giving us free info (teachi...This is great:<br />You are giving us free info (teaching us stuff)<br />AND developing interest in your Anth.<br /><br /><br /><br />Good Work!<br /><br />Aloha, Friend & GO Saints<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://comfortspiral.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Comfort Spiral</a>Cloudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853753108637831069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-29023280513855678162009-12-10T14:20:18.374-06:002009-12-10T14:20:18.374-06:00Cinnamon, It's actually pretty interesting to ...Cinnamon, It's actually pretty interesting to go back and read my own older work, too. Sometimes in a good way, sometimes not. :)<br /><br />Anndi, thankee. It's kind of fun.<br /><br />Erik, too true. How long will it be before the kids don't know what an "album" is?<br /><br />sage, I may be constitutionally unable to make a decision so easily!<br /><br />Merisi, thankee.<br /><br />Greg Schwartz, sometimes it is harder, although in the end it's probably more rewarding. But the editing is the hardest work, I think.<br /><br />Mark, that's a good idea. I will give that a spin.<br /><br />Don, I did the Hemingway riff with COld in the light. I had opening poetry pieces to each chapter, which over the length of the book told another and different story. It was a lot of fun. Yes, it is fun to work out the order too.<br /><br />Vesper, all but two of them have been published before. I do want to have some brand new stuff as well as stuff that is hard to find.<br /><br />Gaston Studio, it's a challenge, but almost endlessly fascinating too.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-55629366994877331222009-12-10T08:25:00.708-06:002009-12-10T08:25:00.708-06:00I've often wondered how anthologies were put t...I've often wondered how anthologies were put together; the decision process must be agonizing but think of what you'll have in the end.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16813508472498593787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-42975708233159342592009-12-10T06:54:27.618-06:002009-12-10T06:54:27.618-06:00Very interesting, Charles. I'm looking forward...Very interesting, Charles. I'm looking forward to your next posts on this.<br />Have all these stories been published before?Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-31841999433136183332009-12-10T06:19:10.735-06:002009-12-10T06:19:10.735-06:00Welcome to the world of editing!
Actually, this i...Welcome to the world of editing!<br /><br />Actually, this is my very favorite part of the process, deciding what goes where (in my case, other people's poems in a little mag), how they work off each other, or contrast, etc.<br /><br />I like Richard's idea of a little intro. To me, definitely a serious very strong story first. Maybe then another a humorous one, then the Kyrin stories altogether. Order them the way you think it will make sense to the reader, not to yourself. If that isn't chronological, don't do it chronologically. <br /><br />This is exciting - I can't wait to read more about how you proceed. <br /><br />Hemingway put together a book of short stories in which he linked the whole with little sections of another overall story before every few stories, so when you were done reading the collection, you also had finished another story. What was great about this was that the story also happened to be wonderful.<br /><br />Good luckIssa's Untidy Huthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352841590717991698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-79673769037680913582009-12-10T06:18:34.089-06:002009-12-10T06:18:34.089-06:00Put them in the order you want them in and then ge...Put them in the order you want them in and then get someone who knows you just a bit to put them in the order they think they belong in, then start the discussion (debate)that's what I did for STINK.<br /><br />I think the Girls of Sunday Night made it stronger with their input and throughput.the walking manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058913927297370740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-63870116322813397622009-12-10T06:03:18.481-06:002009-12-10T06:03:18.481-06:00that's a tough process. I agree with you abou...that's a tough process. I agree with you about not starting with a humorous story -- I think readers would definitely expect more of the same after that.<br /><br />good luck with all the editing. seems to me like that part's harder than actually writing the stories.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344808703550376121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-15194345292153246902009-12-09T23:06:47.552-06:002009-12-09T23:06:47.552-06:00Congratulations and good luck!Congratulations and good luck!Merisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781937797213521146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-12825203095336863012009-12-09T22:11:23.122-06:002009-12-09T22:11:23.122-06:00Interesting decisions you have... when all else f...Interesting decisions you have... when all else fails, flip a coin! :)sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-30263350747231826552009-12-09T21:41:16.429-06:002009-12-09T21:41:16.429-06:00Fascinating decisions. It sounds a lot like how to...Fascinating decisions. It sounds a lot like how to lay out a music album, really, at least before iTunes shattered the concept.Erik Donald Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332500850365598564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-20302988799522534962009-12-09T19:13:25.216-06:002009-12-09T19:13:25.216-06:00What a wonderful project! I know you'll find t...What a wonderful project! I know you'll find the right flow. Good luck!Anndihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08703154815958841195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-21776890696690461982009-12-09T18:58:58.181-06:002009-12-09T18:58:58.181-06:00Always fascinating to hear how writers work. Inter...Always fascinating to hear how writers work. Interesting to know that so much thought goes into editing. Hope to read them too one day :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-22128981638027012382009-12-09T18:34:19.392-06:002009-12-09T18:34:19.392-06:00Candy, pretty much, I think.
Steve Malley, I wrot...Candy, pretty much, I think.<br /><br />Steve Malley, I wrote those stories fairly far apart. At least in some cases, so I've gotta read through them and figure out exactly what order they 'are' in Thal's life.<br /><br />G, right now I'm leaning toward putting them all together in part of the book. I'm wondering about doing a Part 1, part 2 kind of thing.<br /><br />laughingwolf, thankee, my friend.<br /><br />X. Dell, after I reread through them all I'll probably make changes to my current order. I've already done that to some extent as I've started to go through them.<br /><br />jodi, the Robert E. Howard Conan stories have been published in both ways, chronoligcally by the time line of the character, and as Howard wrote them. There's merit in each approach.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-29484278080264442302009-12-09T18:00:23.715-06:002009-12-09T18:00:23.715-06:00Charles, You know of course, that I am in no posit...Charles, You know of course, that I am in no position to give any feedback other than my personal opinion. I always prefer chronological order to themes as well as characters. Just me!jodihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798858210138821711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-18658217330409412502009-12-09T17:57:20.664-06:002009-12-09T17:57:20.664-06:00Maybe an aleatory approach might help. inding som...Maybe an aleatory approach might help. inding some way to put the stories at random might give you some idea of how to better put them together as a whole in a way that you might not thought of before.X. Dellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561609651507566271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-26527301017282067982009-12-09T17:49:56.348-06:002009-12-09T17:49:56.348-06:00good thoughts so far, charles... hope to read it w...good thoughts so far, charles... hope to read it when published....laughingwolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873675614347328116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-50496106701053428782009-12-09T17:40:25.981-06:002009-12-09T17:40:25.981-06:00Interesting post.
I would think that it would mak...Interesting post.<br /><br />I would think that it would make a some sense to put those particular group of stories (Thal Kyrin) in some time of chronological order.<br /><br />Not necessarily as showing how they relate to his life in one block, but perhaps sprinkled among other similar themed stories.G. B. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783331838434598963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-23967179235003687772009-12-09T16:47:43.705-06:002009-12-09T16:47:43.705-06:00I'd go in life-order with the episodic stories...I'd go in life-order with the episodic stories, but maybe scatter them a bit throughout...<br /><br />ANd yes, this is much fun, the reading!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-88297126842576666792009-12-09T16:32:55.028-06:002009-12-09T16:32:55.028-06:00Huh. Never thought about the logistics but I can s...Huh. Never thought about the logistics but I can see how critical it is, like songs on an album.cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-27753918650007638072009-12-09T16:14:54.654-06:002009-12-09T16:14:54.654-06:00Bernardl, I've got several more posts on the t...Bernardl, I've got several more posts on the topic, I think. It's been a thinking experience so far.<br /><br />Randy, yeah, there's more to consider than you'd think at first. <br /><br />Lana, you are sweet anyway.<br /><br />Voidwalker, thanks. I appreciate that.<br /><br />Richard, Most of them were first published in the early 90s. Only one was ever online, but the link doesn't work anymore for that one. I did decide to put all the Thal stories together and so far have done a kind of intro to them in a preface, although I might go with an entry right in front of the stories.<br /><br />Bernita, yes. Even the writing involves a decision tree as you go through a piece. And this requires much the same thing.<br /><br />H.E., that's a good idea. I probably will bring it up to my writing group at some point as I get further into it.<br /><br />Jennifer, yes, I think opening with a humorous piece would not work considering most of the pieces are serious. Great minds or some kind of minds anyway! :)<br /><br />Jack, thanks. I may second guess myself plenty before it's done.<br /><br />SQT, that's something I was wanting to do for at least some stories, is include a blurb about how they came to be. I like when authors do that.<br /><br />David, I'm hoping to finish putting it together over the Christmas break. After that who knows what will happen.<br /><br />Ivan, in the last couple of years I've been doing more promoting of my work than writing new stuff, and it has paid off, to at least some extent.<br /><br />David J. West,<br /> I'm guessing it couldn't be out earlier than next summer but I never like to count my chickens before they are hatched, er published. :)Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.com