tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post9174273840874883502..comments2024-02-12T17:59:33.534-06:00Comments on RAZORED ZEN: I'm an old FogyCharles Gramlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-52426662303583010082009-10-15T12:19:19.668-05:002009-10-15T12:19:19.668-05:00Anndi, you should take a gander just to see what y...Anndi, you should take a gander just to see what you think.<br /><br />Travis, book trailers are becoming all the rage, my friend.<br /><br />Ello, that's probably the thing. There are many out there but not many that are well done.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-5924181701606225352009-10-10T03:34:47.213-05:002009-10-10T03:34:47.213-05:00Charles I wouldn't call you an old fogy. I tot...Charles I wouldn't call you an old fogy. I totally understand your opinion. But I do like some trailers - I think cause I'm very visual. but many are just terrible and do more harm than good.Ello - Ellen Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18311917335471167591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-84918611151270203112009-10-08T21:54:41.210-05:002009-10-08T21:54:41.210-05:00Book trailers? I never heard of such a thing. Pu...Book trailers? I never heard of such a thing. Put me on the fogey list too. <br /><br />Books have dust jackets. Movies have trailers.Travis Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192526507760146748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-55911510712837623722009-10-08T13:13:18.788-05:002009-10-08T13:13:18.788-05:00I've never watched a book trailer... hmmmm...I've never watched a book trailer... hmmmm...Anndihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08703154815958841195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-85175024637282284662009-10-08T07:51:32.610-05:002009-10-08T07:51:32.610-05:00Jodi, I hope I'm becoming wiser. And by Harri...Jodi, I hope I'm becoming wiser. And by Harris, if you mean C. S. Harris, I do. I actually know her and meet with her once a week in my wriiting group!Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-79097350172186031662009-10-08T07:34:21.970-05:002009-10-08T07:34:21.970-05:00Hey Charles, As we become older, we DO become wise...Hey Charles, As we become older, we DO become wiser.(ithink) I too love the unchartered surprise of a book. Save the book trailers. I can't believe you like Harris--so do I! You are not a curmudgeon, just old skool!jodihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798858210138821711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-63372387091693199102009-10-07T20:36:12.985-05:002009-10-07T20:36:12.985-05:00BernardL, my son set mine up like that last time h...BernardL, my son set mine up like that last time he was out. I haven't used it yet. <br /><br />Travis Erwin, I think they may well reach a certain segment of the population. I'd like to see if anyone has any statistics on them.<br /><br />Cinnamon, Barrie Summy on my links list has some links to some trailers. And I know there are others around on the web.<br /><br />Christina, some of the bigger fancier ones are very expensive. I know they ran some for James Patterson books on TV.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-5314066253115686762009-10-07T16:29:42.593-05:002009-10-07T16:29:42.593-05:00I don't really watch television anymore, but m...I don't really watch television anymore, but movies, once in a while. I've seen a few book trailers, some are setup just like a review for a movie. They're interesting, but I don't think I'd ever spend the money to have one made and I definitely don't have the patience to make one myself.LoveRundlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177659277273835858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-69121138122234856482009-10-07T15:55:56.172-05:002009-10-07T15:55:56.172-05:00I've never seen a book trailer- I'm intrig...I've never seen a book trailer- I'm intrigued!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-86595305450828693222009-10-07T15:24:28.690-05:002009-10-07T15:24:28.690-05:00As a reader and a consumer I think they are a wast...As a reader and a consumer I think they are a waste of time, money and effort, since I ignore them, but as a desperate writer willing to do anything I wonder if I am alone or they really do have a place.Travis Erwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09420879160702098979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-83182732621419459992009-10-07T13:50:35.092-05:002009-10-07T13:50:35.092-05:00I'm definitely a curmudgeon, but I do have the...I'm definitely a curmudgeon, but I do have the cables hooked up so I can watch either a DVD or Tape without much exercise other than sticking it in. :)BernardLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09722619048888613647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-1904279695641295202009-10-07T13:08:56.252-05:002009-10-07T13:08:56.252-05:00Paul R. McNamee, seems like there are still quite ...Paul R. McNamee, seems like there are still quite a lot of us fogys out there.<br /><br />Heff, I suspect so, but not all of us embrace it as I have. :)<br /><br />Randy Johnson, I'm much like you. I don't reject new technology. I just don't see any reason to rush into it, and I don't think necessarily that the new way is better. For example, data sticks are not as efficient as 3 1/4 inch disks used to be. It takes more clicks to use them than it did the disks. <br /><br />Middle Ditch, it's a rare movie trailer that will make me "want' to see a movie. But at least they are in the same general type of media. Book trailers are completely different from the reading experience. At least for now.<br /><br />Greg Schwartz, I have seen some trailers that were kind of funny in themselves, but the relationship to the books themselves is questionable.<br /><br />Mary Witzl, the words are the key thing to me. They are incredible efficient, though not perfect, in conveying information. I think we focus more and more on viusal presentation of material to our detriment.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-70891245838484908762009-10-07T11:57:51.951-05:002009-10-07T11:57:51.951-05:00This made me laugh.
I told a colleague I was a L...This made me laugh. <br /><br />I told a colleague I was a Luddite today and she didn't know what I meant. Which made me feel even more old-fogy-ish (you bet I know what that is). I don't read trailers either and I don't jazz my blog up with pretty pictures. I'm in this for the words too.Mary Witzlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458299046574564155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-58388631207184342832009-10-07T10:08:35.165-05:002009-10-07T10:08:35.165-05:00i'm right there with you. very rarely is the ...i'm right there with you. very rarely is the movie version of a book better than the book itself, and making a trailer is too much like making the book into a movie. the only trailer i've seen and liked is the one for Zombie Haiku, because it was done in an interesting way -- a zombie walking down the street, reading the haikus, while other zombies around him were getting shot and killed.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344808703550376121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-61662231631429260262009-10-07T10:01:05.353-05:002009-10-07T10:01:05.353-05:00Another old fogey here Charles but my pet hate is ...Another old fogey here Charles but my pet hate is movie trailers. I see those blithering trailers and I have seen the movie, full stop. To apply this to a book is just appalling.Middle Ditchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16493665280732775898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-71786656222122252902009-10-07T09:47:06.580-05:002009-10-07T09:47:06.580-05:00I'm with you on the old fogey business. I'...I'm with you on the old fogey business. I've seen a few book trailers and can honestly say they never influenced me one way or the other. Just not intersted in them.<br /><br />On the luddite front, I'm in the front rank. Except for my computer, I have no cell phone, blackberry, Mp3 Player, none of the latest gadgets. I revolved away from vinyl long after everything else. Same for cassettes and video tape. I like new innovations, but am just slow to adapt to them. I see no reason to rush.Randy Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04738462837640721126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-9125594399591716142009-10-07T09:31:48.867-05:002009-10-07T09:31:48.867-05:00Don't we ALL eventually end up in the "ol...Don't we ALL eventually end up in the "old fogy" category ?Heffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13396114362826135207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-85379852145095712942009-10-07T09:17:15.214-05:002009-10-07T09:17:15.214-05:00I've seen book trailers, and I understand they...I've seen book trailers, and I understand they are an up'n'coming thing.<br /><br />But I agree with your fogy-ness - I just don't understand them and they don't really appeal to me.Paul R. McNameehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498380385001618758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-11583028499094056672009-10-07T08:54:57.295-05:002009-10-07T08:54:57.295-05:00jennifer, And I've learned much about Thrifty ...jennifer, And I've learned much about Thrifty Thursdays from your blog. I only found out about book trailers about a year ago myself.<br /><br />G, I can see them as a type of expression on their own but I just can't wrap my head around how they have anything to do with books.<br /><br />ivan, I've had to learn to curb my enthusiasm over the years because most folks don't seem to have much passion.<br /><br />Angie, I think you made a very good point. The movie trailer is a similar experience to watching a movie, even if it isn't great, but a book trailer doesn't have anything to do with the experience of reading a book really. Well said.<br /><br />Demon Hunter, you are either wise beyond your years, or are the last gasp of an elder species. I'll go with the first one. ;)<br /><br />Candy, woah, that's a lot of dough for a book trailer. I've heard of some that are very expensive. I wonder if he got a return on his investment.<br /><br />Erik, ahh, you make heaven sound pretty nice. A long stretch of reading. I'm there. I better start being better.<br /><br />X. Dell, yeah, a winning football team covers up a lot of sins. I know book trailers are just another marketing tool and I don't really begrudge folks trying new things to sell a product. I just don't find that they work for me. But the world is becoming more and more multimedia and mixed media driven so it'll soon be old hat, I guess.<br /><br />Cloudia, thanks. I'm glad my fogyiness hasn't driven you away.<br /><br />Lana Gramlich, what do you get when you put a fogy and a crotchety together? US. awwwwwwwwwwhhhhhh<br /><br />Mark, I just started reading a book on the McDonaldization of society which is about that topic. Kind of frightening.<br /><br />Mona, I'm definitely a fan of books over movies, although I think movies can tell fun stories at times and there's nothing wrong with them. I just usually don't enjoy those stories as much as what I'm reading. Thanks for dropping by.<br /><br />sage, hum, maybe that's why I've always had trouble writing a synopsis. I never thought about that before. You may have hit on something there.<br /><br />Vesper, I'm very tactile where books are concerned too. and visual in the sense of liking to see them lined up on my shelves.<br /><br />Ocean Girl, I'm the same way about being sold, and that's one reason I'm not a good salesperson myself. I hate to try to do to others what I don't want done to me. I get recommendations from folks I trust too, and do a lot of browsing to decide on books I want to read.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-71984214261117364852009-10-07T07:34:08.194-05:002009-10-07T07:34:08.194-05:00I hate being sold.
Amazon.com used to have (they ...I hate being sold.<br /><br />Amazon.com used to have (they probably still do) book forums and ratings and I got to all my good books through the recommendation of others based on my original interest.<br /><br />Now I enjoy going to the bookstore and picking up books and taking them home like a bag of candies. I judge the books by their covers :)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399300464457820101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-84721234535587183912009-10-07T06:59:36.214-05:002009-10-07T06:59:36.214-05:00Let me, too, be an old fogy with you, Charles, if ...Let me, too, be an old fogy with you, Charles, if that's what this is. :-) I've barely heard of book trailers and never watched one. I think it's an idea fit for the times we live in - shallow, greedy. I don't watch TV, only films every now and then. And the books, I like to hold them in my hands, even though I cry for the trees.Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-49936854646883659302009-10-07T06:40:06.077-05:002009-10-07T06:40:06.077-05:00I thought being a fogy had something to do with th...I thought being a fogy had something to do with the amount of medicine and skin cream on the bathroom counter and nothing to do with likes or dislikes to book trailers (as for my smart-ass answer: you're an academic, just think of 'em as a synopsis)sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-90406609674227820562009-10-07T06:17:16.542-05:002009-10-07T06:17:16.542-05:00never heard the fogy reference before!
I absolute...never heard the fogy reference before!<br /><br />I absolutely agree about the trailers and the movies. I hate movie form of any book written. I love to read with exercising my own imagination. Besides a movie can never say it all as well as a book does!Monahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08615034229525061880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-41758221834952024872009-10-07T06:09:59.880-05:002009-10-07T06:09:59.880-05:00I think a book trailer is an attempt to package a ...I think a book trailer is an attempt to package a corporate success which alone makes me not interested. The world has enough Britney's and corporate enhanced mouseketeers already.the walking manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058913927297370740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-72041121789475197382009-10-06T23:52:30.542-05:002009-10-06T23:52:30.542-05:00You can be an old fogey if I get to be crotchety i...You can be an old fogey if I get to be crotchety in my middle age. <:\Lana Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06975996208260144558noreply@blogger.com