tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post4004777206467797450..comments2024-02-12T17:59:33.534-06:00Comments on RAZORED ZEN: Flashback CornerCharles Gramlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-61625753643324930062008-03-13T08:10:00.000-05:002008-03-13T08:10:00.000-05:00"Gleaming tears in her eyes leave fangs in my mind..."Gleaming tears in her eyes leave fangs in my mind." <BR/><BR/>Brilliant.<BR/><BR/>I don't dislike poetry; I'm just horrible at it. It didn't help my last experience with learning poetry was with a teacher who hated her life--and consequently her students. Left such a bad taste in my mouth I never moved past the classics (all to my undoubted detriment).AvDBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16574481780173046619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-59562048716680604512008-03-11T08:32:00.000-05:002008-03-11T08:32:00.000-05:00Julie, I have to make a conscious effort to slow d...Julie, I have to make a conscious effort to slow down when I read poetry. But when I can do that and am in the mood I can get great pleasure from it.<BR/><BR/>Ello, thanks.<BR/><BR/>Szelsofa, I have not heard of these poets but will have to check them out. Thanks for your comment on my piece.<BR/><BR/>Shauna, I do enjoy ones that tell a story, but for poetry I think I like best the ones that "suggest" a lot, that seem to have hidden elements and that give me an emotional tweak.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-63457701546231663802008-03-10T17:46:00.000-05:002008-03-10T17:46:00.000-05:00I'm not much of a poetry fan, although I do like o...I'm not much of a poetry fan, although I do like ones that tell a story. My favorites are "The Highwayman" by Alfred Noyes, "To His Coy Mistress" by Andrew Marvell, and "Der Erlkönig" by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. The beginning of "Erlkönig" always gives me chills: "Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind? Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind." <BR/><BR/>Rereading what I've just written, it sounds as if I only like poems about death. But I like happy ones too.Shauna Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03871768714926149114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-76038365101705848972008-03-10T16:21:00.000-05:002008-03-10T16:21:00.000-05:00It was a great experience to read this poem of you...It was a great experience to read this poem of your, Charles.<BR/>I like poetry, tend to write some...uhm...things some might call poems...<BR/><BR/>My fav. poets are Reményik Sándor and József Attila. (I guess some of their poems are available in English.)SzélsőFahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11600289147447182465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-1633853208384283362008-03-10T13:34:00.000-05:002008-03-10T13:34:00.000-05:00Hey that was quite clever! I love that line = hear...Hey that was quite clever! I love that line = hear twisted shut! Great poem, Charles!Ello - Ellen Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18311917335471167591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-43386690678878178242008-03-10T12:59:00.000-05:002008-03-10T12:59:00.000-05:00....Pope, metaphysical poets, Eliot,some Byron. Lo.......Pope, metaphysical poets, Eliot,<BR/>some Byron. Lost interest as I moved away from academic environments in life role; occasional song writing; and reawakened the muse some years ago during a writing phase. <BR/><BR/>Tend to read too fast to digest poetry easily.virtual nexushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955335598875413324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-50919240908601002972008-03-10T12:56:00.000-05:002008-03-10T12:56:00.000-05:00Sidney, Poe was definitely one of the first poets ...Sidney, Poe was definitely one of the first poets to ignite my imagination. <BR/><BR/>Sarai, I told my English teacher that if I hadn't already been a reader she would have kicked reading out of me. I hated some of the crap we were supposed to read and which was "good for us," like taking foul tasting medicine.<BR/><BR/>Josephine, I've read a fair amount of Rilke. I don't remember this particular one but it's very good. I'm often a sucker for first person poemsCharles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-56581719078685665942008-03-10T11:10:00.000-05:002008-03-10T11:10:00.000-05:00Charles, great poem. While my first publication (a...Charles, great poem. <BR/><BR/>While my first publication (at age 13!) was an essay, as a teenager I was all about writing poetry (I saved NONE of it! Ugh!) and as an English major in college I took mostly poetry classes (I stupidly sold back all my text books! Ugh!). Once I finished school, I recognized that the market for poetry wasn't nearly as strong as short stories, so I started writing those instead.<BR/><BR/>Yet poetry always will always be a first love, and this Rilke poem I stumbled upon years ago resonated with me personally so much so that I decided to include it in my WIP as something significant and inspirational my to MC:<BR/><BR/><I>I am too alone in the world, and not alone enough<BR/>to make every minute holy.<BR/>I am too tiny in this world, and not tiny enough<BR/>Just to lie before you like a thing, shrewd and secretive. <BR/><BR/>I want my own will, and I want simply to be with my will,<BR/>As it goes toward action,<BR/>And in the silent, sometimes hardly moving times<BR/>When something is coming near,<BR/>I want to be with those who know secret things<BR/>Or else alone.<BR/><BR/>I want to be a mirror for your whole body,<BR/>And I never want to be blind or too old<BR/>To hold up your heavy and swaying picture<BR/>I want to unfold<BR/>I don’t want to be folded anywhere,<BR/>Because where I am folded, there I am a lie.<BR/>And I want my grasp of things<BR/>True before you. I want to describe myself<BR/>Like a painting that I looked at<BR/>Closely for a long time,<BR/>Like a saying that I finally understood,<BR/>Like the face of my mother,<BR/>Like a ship<BR/>That took me safely<BR/>Through the wildest storm of all.”</I><BR/><BR/>Rainer Maria RilkeJosephine Damianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952030380866201241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-12354980706799804192008-03-10T10:19:00.000-05:002008-03-10T10:19:00.000-05:00I only read certain poetry and it is all due to a ...I only read certain poetry and it is all due to a really bad English teacher. She shoved certain poems down our throats until I couldn't stomach any. <BR/>That being said I don't shrink from it I just don't rush out to read it. I do enjoy certain kinds usually darker poems like Poe but now and days I pretty much ignore it unless it moves me.Saraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00203551997160640352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-81651441505476746212008-03-10T09:37:00.000-05:002008-03-10T09:37:00.000-05:00I loved Poe in high school, especially after one o...I loved Poe in high school, especially after one of my teachers said a story I wrote for an assignment reminded her of Poe. :-) There's a new version of the Black Cat on "Masters of Horror" which Jeffrey Coombs from Reanimator as Poe. It's kind of cool.Sidneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284680909152676159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-23942167654448716482008-03-10T09:34:00.000-05:002008-03-10T09:34:00.000-05:00Steve, I'm a big fan of Coleridge and of Shelley a...Steve, I'm a big fan of Coleridge and of Shelley as well. Both inlfluenced me. <BR/><BR/>Lisa, one of my favorite "poems" is "bullet the blue sky" by U2<BR/><BR/>Miladysa, yes I've been reading Tyhitia's postings. Some good stuff. Thanks for the comment on my piece.<BR/><BR/>Lana, you're sweet. Definitely Blake. I told you I was in a collection with Blake eh? of course, he was long dead.<BR/><BR/>Sphinx Ink, I'm afraid my singing voice isn't what it was.<BR/><BR/>SQT, I like those twist endings myself.<BR/><BR/>Candice, you probably could write it if you tried.<BR/><BR/>Bernita, thanks. Yes, there are a lot of good poets out there worth having a look at.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Writtenwyrd, I agree that poetical elements raise the level of prose. It's hard to say something is not literature if the prose really sings, no matter the subject matter.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-82417075824853785152008-03-10T04:54:00.000-05:002008-03-10T04:54:00.000-05:00I read poetry occasionally now, but I read quite ...I read poetry occasionally now, but I read quite a bit of it until getting the Job That Ate My Life about a decade ago. I still write song lyrics and poetry on occasion-- mostly while driving so I forget a lot of them. <BR/><BR/>I do think my prose is heavily influenced by my poetic side, which causes me to think of my writing as morel iterary than straight genre. I could be deluding myself, though.writtenwyrddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280711822302493122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-86168790839046291512008-03-10T03:48:00.000-05:002008-03-10T03:48:00.000-05:00Your poem evokes images like Tannith Lee does, Cha...Your poem evokes images like Tannith Lee does, Charles.<BR/>I do like poetry, old ballads,the Romantics. Yeats and Eliot are probably my favourites, but I am fond of individual pieces of every style from everywhere.Bernitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264585685253812090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-25305817850474713112008-03-10T03:34:00.000-05:002008-03-10T03:34:00.000-05:00I grew to love poetry in my late teens, when I dis...I grew to love poetry in my late teens, when I discovered Renaissance poetry. I still enjoy reading it, but I can't write it.cs harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708705800818667923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-87171012870596456792008-03-10T02:04:00.000-05:002008-03-10T02:04:00.000-05:00Normally I'm not a poetry person, but I like this ...Normally I'm not a poetry person, but I like this a lot! <BR/><BR/>I love songs that tell a story and this one of course has something of a twist ending. Very very cool. I'd love to hear this sung.SQThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251030404220909306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-24496942270319928952008-03-10T01:56:00.000-05:002008-03-10T01:56:00.000-05:00Your poetry has brought tears to my eyes. Although...Your poetry has brought tears to my eyes. Although I enjoy Blake & much of the earliest recorded Welsh poetry available, none of that has ever made me cry (in the GOOD way.)Lana Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06975996208260144558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-28234575427168865682008-03-09T20:58:00.000-05:002008-03-09T20:58:00.000-05:00Charles, I did not know you could sing. You must p...Charles, I did not know you could sing. You must put on a command performance for Wordsmiths sometime. <BR/><BR/>I like the poem/song. You do have a way with words. <BR/><BR/>I have said for years that I don't particularly like poetry because I never read it in my leisure time. Nevertheless, I've found myself, at times of high emotion in my life, writing poems. And I do recall a few memorable verses from my long-ago days as an English lit. major. My favorite poem is "Dover Beach" by Matthew Arnold.Sphinx Inkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03429797402360703839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-37728373146636716642008-03-09T20:04:00.000-05:002008-03-09T20:04:00.000-05:00She's A Killer is great - the last line is a kille...She's A Killer is great - the last line is a killer too :-D<BR/><BR/>I LOVE poetry! <BR/><BR/>Adrian Henri had a huge influence upon me - when I first read 'Without You' I felt as though someone had switched the lights on for me.<BR/><BR/>Tyhitia posted some amazing poems on her blog last month and one is haunting me, Mother to Son by Langston Hughes.Miladysahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08065128196666157541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-57308737899243515782008-03-09T19:23:00.000-05:002008-03-09T19:23:00.000-05:00"A body unsouled"I love that line. I don't write i..."A body unsouled"<BR/><BR/>I love that line. I don't write it, but I've found that poetry is more a part of me than I realized. Robert Frost, Emily Dickenson, Andrew Marvell, so many poets and so many words that have almost become part of our collective consciousness.<BR/><BR/>Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Harry Chapin :)Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665632105920753931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-69530565447526145882008-03-09T18:40:00.000-05:002008-03-09T18:40:00.000-05:00Charles, I don't think I ever hated poetry. I was...Charles, I don't think I ever hated poetry. I was pretty young when I discovered the English and Scottish ballads. "Thomas the Rhymer" and "Sir Patrick Spens" are still among my favorites.<BR/><BR/>I plan to do a post about John Donne on his saint's day March 31--a recognized saint in the Anglican Church who also wrote some of the most beautiful erotic poetry in the English language.<BR/><BR/>I also love the Romantics--Coleridge, Keats, and Shelley especially. I read "Ozymandius" in eighth grade and was hooked.<BR/><BR/>In 1967, when I was 15, I heard Lawrence Ferlinghetti read and was mesmerized. Thirty-three years later, I took my 15-year-old daughter Sarah to hear Ferlinghetti read. She's now in the MFA program at Maryland.<BR/><BR/>I discovered Kenneth Rexroth when I moved to Elkhart, where he spent his early years.<BR/><BR/>P.S. "She's a Killer" ought to have been a hit.steve on the slow trainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18257811143869341854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-51888503700611264922008-03-09T17:23:00.000-05:002008-03-09T17:23:00.000-05:00Erik, that's a good point about poetry, about how ...Erik, that's a good point about poetry, about how it crosses the lines of reality and fiction easily. <BR/><BR/>Ivan, this was actually one of our slower songs, heavy but not played at breakneck speed. I can hear yours played in the kind of honky tonk's I grew up around.<BR/><BR/>Billy, "The World is Too Much With Us," is very fine. I've enjoyed a lot of Tennyson as well. In the past ten years I've been reading a lot of basically unknown poets outside of the field of speculative poetry. Some of my favorites are Charlee Jacob and Wendy Rathbone.<BR/><BR/>Travis, yes, in fact, it very seldom does, I'd imagine.<BR/><BR/>Steve Malley, as I was saying to Billy, I read mostly what are called spec poets these days, or dramatic poetry such as that Robert E. Howard wrote.<BR/><BR/>H.E., I'll check that blog out. <BR/><BR/>Greg Schwartz, guess we're like converts to poetry then. And converts are often the most enthusiastic.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-66843126988901310612008-03-09T17:03:00.000-05:002008-03-09T17:03:00.000-05:00nice lyrics! i never liked poetry as a kid either...nice lyrics! i never liked poetry as a kid either, until i got to college. not sure what changed my mind -- i think it might have been an english lit class i took my sophomore year. it certainly wasn't all the shakespeare i had to read in high school!Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344808703550376121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-62594734467428798942008-03-09T14:54:00.000-05:002008-03-09T14:54:00.000-05:00p.s. Another blogger I read has a great poem post...p.s. <BR/><BR/>Another blogger I read has a great poem posted (scroll down to after the meme) check out http://blackcrag.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>he doesn't post his work often but I always like it when he does.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11617259549508716343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-11174342303403912712008-03-09T14:52:00.000-05:002008-03-09T14:52:00.000-05:00I am only now discovering that I do, indeed like p...I am only now discovering that I do, indeed like poetry. Been dabbling a touch in writing some and I certainly enjoyed reading yours.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11617259549508716343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-39099588274693423472008-03-09T14:48:00.000-05:002008-03-09T14:48:00.000-05:00That reminds me... whatever happened to Poetry Thu...That reminds me... whatever happened to Poetry Thursdays back at my blog? <BR/><BR/>WB Yeats and William Carlos Williams are probably my faves, but that doesn't stop me sampling a little of everything on the menu!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.com