tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post5108482087252564239..comments2024-02-12T17:59:33.534-06:00Comments on RAZORED ZEN: The Plot ThickensCharles Gramlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-61991701281571747392007-04-25T10:05:00.000-05:002007-04-25T10:05:00.000-05:00Thanks everyone for posting. Yeah, going from the...Thanks everyone for posting. Yeah, going from theory to practice is the hard part. In one way, that makes the statement that there's only one plot kind of meaningless. But, as Michelle says, it does help keep our mind on the simpler core of what we are working on.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-4882166614291329882007-04-25T07:33:00.000-05:002007-04-25T07:33:00.000-05:00I like when things are broken down because it help...I like when things are broken down because it helps when I get so lost in the writing process that I can't see up from down. It's very much like JR said -- nothing is simple there. But when you analyze it (this speaks to Susan's point), you see it and it becomes less scary.Michelle's Spellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769666862403600253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-7743082962907561932007-04-25T07:32:00.000-05:002007-04-25T07:32:00.000-05:00JA seems like it, but when you have to keep sight ...JA seems like it, but when you have to keep sight of what will be taken, what this one wants, what this one needs and in the end it is just mumbo jumbo I get outa my brain....hihihih:)<BR/>Great info;)Drizelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16746480963316566816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-21852846803382452542007-04-25T05:51:00.000-05:002007-04-25T05:51:00.000-05:00I think I mentioned it in comments on someone else...I think I mentioned it in comments on someone else's blog, but I once heard an author observe there are two story templates - Christ and Arthur.<BR/><BR/>Christ = protagonist who succeeds<BR/><BR/>Arthur = protagonist who doesn't (Camelot is lost)<BR/><BR/>In either that or Morrell's the point is good. The basic tree is always the same, how you hang the ornaments is what makes it different.<BR/><BR/>Jr. makes a good point, also, it ain't ever easy picking and hanging those ornaments.Sidneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284680909152676159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-14084150425734508372007-04-25T02:53:00.000-05:002007-04-25T02:53:00.000-05:00In her book, "bird by bird", Ann Lamott writes, "P...In her book, "bird by bird", Ann Lamott writes, "Plot grows out of character. If you focus on who the people in your story are, if you sit and write about two people you know, are getting to know better day by day, something is bound to happen."<BR/><BR/>I like this. I think I like it because I understand that conflict is a part of human existence. Thus, if we write in the context of truth we cannot avoid conflict.<BR/><BR/>It seems as if you said that somebody said or maybe just you said (too lazy to go back and look) that a good piece of fiction contains conflict on every page. That startled me (conflict), and I wondered if I would ever be able to write a good piece of fiction without growing weary of conflict. Then I started to read a good piece of fiction and noticed to my amazement that you were right. It did contain conflict, even in the most slightest sense, on every page. And I started to understand and lose some of my initial fear. Thank you, Charles. <BR/><BR/>This is always a good place to come for great advice.Susan Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05566328070072489203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-41758111520431398792007-04-24T23:27:00.000-05:002007-04-24T23:27:00.000-05:00But nothing's ever that simple when it comes to th...But nothing's ever that simple when it comes to the actual writing process.JR's Thumbprintshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479324326541901987noreply@blogger.com