tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post2276581813787052556..comments2024-02-12T17:59:33.534-06:00Comments on RAZORED ZEN: Movies and the Shaky CamCharles Gramlichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-55234970234677348462009-05-18T17:30:00.000-05:002009-05-18T17:30:00.000-05:00I just started a petition about this earlier today...I just started a petition about this earlier today. pass it on and get me some sigs. Thanks. And good point. e-mail me back at dado@myself.com if you got any questions. <br /><br />http://www.petitiononline.com/8303857/petition.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17175265678312801015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-50784057305627369612009-04-15T12:42:00.000-05:002009-04-15T12:42:00.000-05:00JR, split screen shaky cam? You mean like trying ...JR, split screen shaky cam? You mean like trying to watch two basketball games simultaneously on the screen? I can't even handle that.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-82247782166292637692009-04-14T23:00:00.000-05:002009-04-14T23:00:00.000-05:00Not only is Lakeview Terrace slow to develop, it's...Not only is Lakeview Terrace slow to develop, it's slow getting to a place the view already knows about.<br /><br />As for the shaky cam, someone should do a split screen shaky cam movie -- what do you think?JR's Thumbprintshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479324326541901987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-10212427389072472882009-04-14T07:44:00.000-05:002009-04-14T07:44:00.000-05:00Miladysa, Yes, I thought the Omega Man version wit...Miladysa, Yes, I thought the Omega Man version with Charlton Heston was better. I was all ready to really lose myself in the new one but never managed it.<br /><br />Lana Gramlich, you have a point my dear. I can hardly argue with that. Maybe Saw, the original. When was that made?<br /><br />jason evans, agreed. Technique should not get in the way of story telling but it seems to in the movies with all too much frequency.<br /><br />Frank Loose, my opinion exactly. Some viewers may like it, but it always calls attention to itself rather than the film for me.<br /><br />Rachel, wow! That was cool. Dr. Rachel strikes.<br /><br />laughingwolf, hum, maybe it's a technique that lends itself to comedy.<br /><br />G, ah, this pesky imagination of mine. <br /><br />Cloudia, I never watched NYPD BLUE. Like I say, a little bit at just the right moment might work. Too much is too much.<br /><br />Jennifer, that definitely happened to me with Blair Witch Project. Motion sickness sitting in a chair? I prefer not.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-23703351478190870482009-04-13T23:09:00.000-05:002009-04-13T23:09:00.000-05:00I prefer not to watch movies that I need Dramamine...I prefer not to watch movies that I need Dramamine to get through it. No shaky cam for me, thanks.<br /><br />Have a great week Charles.jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08547226679311827501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-90476104830569388612009-04-13T21:34:00.000-05:002009-04-13T21:34:00.000-05:00Agree on shaky-cam!
Even NYPD BLUE moderated it's ...Agree on shaky-cam!<br />Even NYPD BLUE moderated it's use...Aloha-Cloudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853753108637831069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-24535198009103202862009-04-13T18:59:00.000-05:002009-04-13T18:59:00.000-05:00Charles, there ain't nothing to get.
Shaky camera...Charles, there ain't nothing to get.<br /><br />Shaky camera is just a way for a none-too-good director to make a film.<br /><br />Kind of like someone winning the "It was a dark and stormy night" writing contest.<br /><br />Back to back.G. B. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783331838434598963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-75064424296533701672009-04-13T16:38:00.000-05:002009-04-13T16:38:00.000-05:00woody allen, master of shaky cam? lolneither pique...woody allen, master of shaky cam? lol<BR/><BR/>neither pique my interest, so will avoid both... thx charleslaughingwolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873675614347328116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-36013162769013728762009-04-13T16:32:00.000-05:002009-04-13T16:32:00.000-05:00I do not like the Shaky Cam! No, not at all, Sam ...I do not like the Shaky Cam! No, not at all, Sam I Am. I do not like on a screen. I do not like it though it seems so keen. I do not like it on TV. I do not like it, no not me!Rachel V. Olivierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993034871233904955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-44314029591591314262009-04-13T16:18:00.000-05:002009-04-13T16:18:00.000-05:00In my opinion anything that draws attention to the...In my opinion anything that draws attention to the craft of movie making is wrong. If "shaky cam" makes a viewer aware of the process and disrupts the story, then it was a bad choice by the filmmakers.Frank Loosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12564007564601986631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-36954894492749939002009-04-13T15:55:00.000-05:002009-04-13T15:55:00.000-05:00Some of the new, hyper-real (in my opinion, crap) ...Some of the new, hyper-real (in my opinion, crap) camera techniques really detract from the experience. Like the Battlestar Galactica shake, shake, zoom in thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-24285021633025184602009-04-13T15:29:00.000-05:002009-04-13T15:29:00.000-05:00Shaky cam or no, has a decent movie even been MADE...Shaky cam or no, has a decent movie even been MADE in the past 10 or 15 years? I say nay, sir! I say nay!Lana Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06975996208260144558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-40719734532630212652009-04-13T14:40:00.000-05:002009-04-13T14:40:00.000-05:00Amen!I was disappointed with I Am Legend which I a...Amen!<BR/><BR/>I was disappointed with I Am Legend which I also watched over the weekend. I think that is what it was called. It soooo could have been good!Miladysahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08065128196666157541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-27520714483645301192009-04-13T12:39:00.000-05:002009-04-13T12:39:00.000-05:00Michelle, yes, I could see it being used effective...Michelle, yes, I could see it being used effectively as an "element" in something. But exactly the problem with the use throughout a movie.<BR/><BR/>Heff, I wonder if it would work for pornos?<BR/><BR/>Middle Ditch, Yes, let me be aware of the compelling story and compelling acting, not the technique. I've heard good stuff about Red Dwarf.<BR/><BR/>Barrie, Yes, that really biased me against shaky cam from the beginning. I could never understand why that movie was so popular.<BR/><BR/>BernardL, agreed. Like any technqiue, it might have it's uses, but I don't see it as a primary technique to carry a movie.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-87978071145996532422009-04-13T12:14:00.000-05:002009-04-13T12:14:00.000-05:00As you say, we know we're watching a movie. The sh...As you say, we know we're watching a movie. The shaky cam ought to be used sparingly and come with a warning label.BernardLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09722619048888613647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-44267868136946097692009-04-13T10:01:00.000-05:002009-04-13T10:01:00.000-05:00Remember the Blair Witch Project? That was a reall...Remember the Blair Witch Project? That was a really shaky cam too. And I was nauseous for the entire movie.Barriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04678698296265168217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-36940569441189949202009-04-13T09:10:00.000-05:002009-04-13T09:10:00.000-05:00They drive me crazy too. Hate them. Spoils everyth...They drive me crazy too. Hate them. Spoils everything. Give me a good, well directed, well acted and well written, old fashioned type movie any time.<BR/><BR/>Charles, Red Dwarf is back on here. A totally new series, same writers, same actors.<BR/><BR/>The BBC (the idiots) refused to have them back in 2004, so they went somewhere else successfully. BUT I can't get that channel so I'm really cursing the BBC (who still demands a huge license fee!)Middle Ditchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16493665280732775898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-53710042362884092902009-04-13T09:00:00.000-05:002009-04-13T09:00:00.000-05:00I can only imagine that "shaky cam" got old really...I can only imagine that "shaky cam" got old really fast.Heffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13396114362826135207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-55224853040382316592009-04-13T08:59:00.000-05:002009-04-13T08:59:00.000-05:00Hey Charles,I totally agree about the overuse of t...Hey Charles,<BR/><BR/>I totally agree about the overuse of the shaky cam! I hate it in most movies -- as you pointed out, I can do that myself. In a short clip, it's fine, but in movies where you want to lose yourself in the story, you don't want to constantly be reminded of the fourth wall.Michelle's Spellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769666862403600253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-838617772167140742009-04-13T08:45:00.000-05:002009-04-13T08:45:00.000-05:00Tara, you are indeed blessed.G., I guess I'm too o...Tara, you are indeed blessed.<BR/><BR/>G., I guess I'm too old. I just don't get it.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-58009443310531589122009-04-13T05:12:00.000-05:002009-04-13T05:12:00.000-05:00Shaky cams drive me batty, no matter whether they'...Shaky cams drive me batty, no matter whether they're used for a movie, a documentary, or even a t.v. show.G. B. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09783331838434598963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-38439377596074344262009-04-12T21:52:00.000-05:002009-04-12T21:52:00.000-05:00I must be lucky in the sense that I have never had...I must be lucky in the sense that I have never had to experience a shaky cam. Maybe it is the type of movies that I watch that would mot need such a thing to be happening, I'm not sure. But I can imagine you sitting there damning it each time it did the shaky cam dance.<BR/><BR/>silly.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Soft love,<BR/>TInside our hands, outside our heartshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04135186996993725893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-23005157263944538292009-04-12T21:44:00.000-05:002009-04-12T21:44:00.000-05:00sorry to hear neither movie was worth the time. i...sorry to hear neither movie was worth the time. i thought "quarantine" looked good when i saw the previews, but glad i never went to see it. was gonna wait for it on video, but haven't gotten around to it yet.<BR/><BR/>fyi, i posted a slightly longer version of my review of "wanting the mouth of a lover" on helium.com, here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.helium.com/items/1410949-book-review-of-wanting-the-mouth-of-a-lover-by-charles-gramlichGreghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344808703550376121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-57949458063190978262009-04-12T18:07:00.000-05:002009-04-12T18:07:00.000-05:00I can understand the premise of the "shaky cam", b...I can understand the premise of the "shaky cam", but I don't find it realistic or clever--just annoying. Thanks for the heads up, Charles!!jodihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01798858210138821711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28221839.post-24005705865278800952009-04-12T17:53:00.000-05:002009-04-12T17:53:00.000-05:00pattinase (abbott), I’ve gotten that feeling from ...pattinase (abbott), I’ve gotten that feeling from it myself.<BR/><BR/> ARCHAVIST, I guess I’ve never seen it done well then. It’s always distracting to me, and makes it impossible for me to suspend disbelief for any length of time.<BR/><BR/> Sidney, I think it had potential in the characters but I didn’t really develop a lot of liking for any of them unfortunately.<BR/><BR/> Cullen Gallagher, I think you’re right on. Maybe at the beginning they suggested a new way of experiencing a film but to me they just seem distracting. I’m not going to reach a point in a film where I am completely unaware of watching a film so a technique like that won’t make it more realistic for me and will lead to problems in presentation.<BR/><BR/> Shauna Roberts, absolutely. Another pet peeve of mine. I’m not going to suddenly forget I’m watching a film because of grainy film quality or shaky cam. I’m much more likely to forget if what is on the screen is absolutely compelling. <BR/><BR/> Travis, yes, it can actually be physically disconcerting as well.<BR/><BR/> David Cranmer, I thought that super fast editing went out with Miami Vice. I want to be able to see what is happening and get a chance to absorb it. Jackson is a pretty good actor, I think, but I’m not really into the material he’s chosen lately.<BR/><BR/> Erik Donald France, I just don’t want to be so aware of “technique” that I’m not able to relax and release myself to the show’s content. I haven’t seen “Grey Gardens.”<BR/><BR/> Ello, well, the bad guy dies. That pretty much tells you the ending. ;)<BR/><BR/> Scott, I didn’t see Cloverfield. I thought Blair Witch sucked and never even watched it all the way through. Quarantine had lots of promise I thought, but it was short circuited for me by the camera technique.<BR/> <BR/> Merisi, wow, 10,000? I had no idea. That’s kind of cool. Happy Easter to you as well.<BR/><BR/> Steve Malley, I “hear” you!Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.com